Respected Friends,
I missed a lot of activities in the group because of my busy job schedule. But I kept on studying messages on my mobile. Positive discussions are going on. Thanks to Respected Prabhakar Ji,Kondal Ji, Finn, Vivian, Mahajan Saheb group a more lively Now. Regarding Budh , Prabhakar ji explained it in detail. I wish to add few lines about the Budh.
1.)If we draw a line from left upper corner of the Teva/Chart to bottom right corner of the chart rectangle, The Chart will be devidedin to two halves. Upper half consist of 1,2,9,10,11, & 12 house. and lower half have 3,4,5,6,7,& 8th house. In upper half this planet namely budh will helps saturn's strength and in lower half it helps Sun.
2.) In addition to above Budh will behave like the planet in whose Pakka House it resides. And If this budh happens to be alone relatively in all contexts, then it will create the good & Nek conditions, even in its enemy house. But this type of alone budh gives wandering life or life away from home like abroad etc. But will help in Trading business.
3.) If Budh is Qayam then there will be no ill effect of Shukkar, Chander, Mangal.
4. ) In the fight between Chander & Rahu, Mercury will suffer or die. An example is given in LK: Moon 4th & Rahu 10th- Head Injury (Sir Fat Jana)
5.) Budh has a quality to remain amongst two inimical planet and keep on doing good work.
Rest in next Mail…..
Regards
Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
--- In astrostudents@
>
> Revered Senior Member and Dear All Fellow Students,
> Namashkar!!!
> I really apologise if I had mentioned something wrong for Naak Chhedan Remedy....Even I had read it in the book for 96 hrs as mentioned by Shri MS Kondal ji and Sh. Parbhakar ji; but the lines that I had added after that remedy is not mentioned in the book anywhere. Lekin ye lines Aadarniye Shri Neel Kanth Deedi Ji ke batayi hui guidelines for how to do this upay ke according hain........
> I reckon he had told this remedy to my father way back and he specifically mentioned that after u get ur nose punctured please make sure that except that person who punctures ur nose nobody shud see ur nose for atleast 96 hrs so its better to stay indoors for this period.
> Thats the reason why i mentioned these lines while I never mentioned that sunlight shud be avoided etc.
> Shri Neelkanth ji Deedi Was very close fren of panditji and I think unhonne agar kuchh aise kaha tha tto zaroor isska koi arth hogga.......
>
> From: mts3434 <mts3434@...>
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Prabhakar Ji, Kondal Ji,
> To: astrostudents@
> Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 2:42 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Members,
> Namaskar,
> shukar hai bhagwan ka ki kuchh members ki neend to khuli, kisi
> vishay par hulchal to huee.mein apna experince share karna chahta
> hoon ki jab bhee varshphal mein budh khana no 2 mein aye, to usse
> kya nahi karna chahiye. jis saal budh khana no 2 mein aaye uss saal
> jatak ko musical instruments nahi lene chahiye. mere paas agar koi
> aisa shaksh jiska budh khana no 2 mein aya hoo(varshphal ke anusar)
> to uss saal mein usko saali se bhee dur rehne ko kehta hoon,
> T.V.,C.D. player,Stereo, Baja vagairah ka kum se kum prayog kare aur
> naya/purana na le. jab ki yeh zyadatar electronics goods hee hain.
> fir bhee inka parhez rakhna hee achha rahega.aisa mera manana hai.
>
> MAhajan
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, maneshwar singh kondal
> <mskondal@ .> wrote:
> >
> >
>
> DATED 13-8-2008
> >
> > dear members,
> > pranaam to all of my seniors
> and hello to colleagues,hope all r fine and enjoing .i read
> yograjjis reply to vivian regarding the piercing of nosefor 96 hours
> and i fully agree with yograjji on this topic that in the book it is
> mentioned only the same thing which yograjji has written .till date
> i have never read any where and in any of version that one should
> not go out or u have to hide it from others or one have to be away
> from sun light suraj to budh ko theek rakhnae mein madad deta hai or
> chandarma ka bhi dost hai so dont be mistaken on this part that u
> have to stuck into house only after naak chaddan .u r free to move
> about humne aaj tak kaafi logon ka naak chaddan karvaya hai and got
> good results 100% u can say but never restricted anybody like this.
> > thats the only and only reason why we all are insisting everybody
> to try to read the original version of lal kitab so please for god
> sake try to read the original versions only .and your first step to
> have success in the field of lal kitab is to procure a original copy
> of it and get it translated or do what ever u can do to reach for it
> understand it and translate it.dont try to get pakki pakayi
> things .this thing will harm you in the field of learning lal
> kitab.try to find new things out of it yourself it has got
> thousands of such formulaes and permutations and combinations that
> the need is only to unveil them.but most of the people dont use
> their own brains and try to grab things either by hook or crook.try
> to go more deep and deep into the book and u ur self will find the
> difference.ORIGINAL LAL KITAB IN ITSELF IS A LAMPHOUSE AND POWER
> GENERATOR THAT MERELY BY KEEPING IT WITH YOURSELF YOU FEEL YOURSELF
> FULLY ENERGISED.
> >
> > SO I HOPE NOW EVERYBODY WOULD TRY TO GO FOR A GENUINE BOOK AND
> FELL THE ENERGY ITS A FACT YOU TRY IT AND TELL IN THE FORM THE
> DIFFERENCE.
> >
> >
> > THANKS
> >
> > REGARDS
> >
> > M S KONDAL
> >
> > <span style="font- weight:bold; color:rgb( 128, 0, 0);">M S
> KONDAL</span>
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@ ...>
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:19:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2/Vivian Jee
> >
> >
> > Dear Vivian ji,
> >
> > I am partially agree with you on the question of period and method
> of Naak-Chhedan. You are absolutely right that Pundit ji has advised
> to do it for atleast 96 hours. and It is very much mentioned in Lal
> Kitab-1952, page 545, line 11 to 13, (Budh Khana no. 2 Mandee
> Haalat):
> >
> > "Naak-Chhedan (4-5 din tak kam az kam 96 ghantey Surakh qayam
> rakhna) magadgaar hoga. 12 se 16 saala se pehle pehle zyadah
> faydemand magar baad mein bhi naak-chhedan madadgar hoga).".
> >
> > But your statement that one should remain indoor, nobody should
> see the Naak-Chhedan and it should not be exposed to the direct
> Sunlight is just beyond my understanding. What are the basis of this
> notion? Have you read it somewhere or was it recommended/ told by
> someone to you? Kindly clarify.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Yograj Prabhakar
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 8/13/08, mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in> wrote:
> >
> > From: mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo. co.in>
> > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:22 AM
> >
> >
> > Vivian Ji,
> > Namaskar,
> > sorry, mein kuchh kadwa bol gaya tha.
> >
> > Hua kuchh iss tarah ki jo mein kehna chahta thaa woh prabhakar
> sahib
> > ne keh diya hai, sirf kehne/samjhane ka tarika alag ho gaya. mein
> > kuchh kadwe tarike se keh gaya woh pyar se samjha gaye.aap kyonki
> > bahut aage ki soch rahe theiy, wahan tak ki mein to soch hi nahi
> > sakta.agar mein prabhakar ji ne jo kuchh likha thaa woh padh leta
> to
> > shayad mein apko itna kadwa nahi likhta. again & again SORRY.
> > abb itna dhayan rakhiye ki Budh khana no 2 wale ko budh ki ashiyan
> > sthapit nahi karni chahiye.
> >
> > because naak chhedan
> > > karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> > > main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person
> shud
> > > stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
> > minimum
> > > 96 hrs.....
> > Kripya yeh bataye ki 96 hours ka upay jaisa ki aapne likha hai yeh
> > kahan likha hai.kyonki zyadatar jab bhee Budh manda asar de raha
> ho
> > Nak Chhedan karwaya hi jata hai(96 days) lekin agar kahin yeh
> likha
> > hai ki 96 hours ghar mein hi rahe ya kisi ko nak chhedan dikhai na
> > de, sun light na lage aadi aadi.
> > Dhanyawad.
> > Mahajan
> >
> > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
> > <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mahajan ji, Namashkar !!!
> > > I am just a beginner in lal Kitab and a nursery class student in
> > front of u lekin fir bhi aap kripa kar Lal Kitab(1952) Ka Page
> > Number 543(budh2 nek haalat) zaroor padiyega its clearly mentioned-
> --
> > ------''Lambi va poshda aur baahar ko ubhri hui peshaani ka maalik
> > hogga.jismain jahanat tatha saath aayi hui kismat ka nek asar
> > hogga....... ......... ......... ......... '' Please sir do
> correct me
> > if i m wrong.....
> > > Â
> > > thanx------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --
> ----
> > -------vivian
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 12/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
> > > Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 12:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vivian Ji,
> > > mein abhi itna vidhwan nahi hua ki matha(forehead) dekh kar bata
> > saku
> > > ki budh khana no 2 mein hai.Aapke baare mein mein kuchh keh nahi
> > > sakta.
> > > Mahajan
> > > --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
> > > <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mahajan ji first of all i m highly thankful to u to start the
> > > topic again and kept this group alive......well about budh
> number
> > 2
> > > wot i percieve is dat; aise insaan ka father ki age ki koi
> > guarantee
> > > ni hotti but tab tak jab tak chander se koi madad na mil rahi ho
> > if
> > > moon of such a person is in 8th or twelfth house father of such
> a
> > > person may survive.Moreover tewe ki darushti ke liye kuchh
> > questions
> > > we can ask like aise insaan ki mastishk(head) ubhraa hua
> > (protruding)
> > > hotta hai........and such a person is very intelligent but at
> the
> > > same time somewhat selfish also.
> > > > Budh ki cheeze sister,bua,daughter etc.r not gud for the
> > person
> > > and they give the result to that of a poison.....mande budh ki
> > pehli
> > > nishaani ghar main sheep, parrot kharidke ya vaise hi lekke
> > rakha
> > > jaye ya fir aise saksh ki saali ghar main aake rehne lag jaye
> tto
> > wo
> > > uskki wife ko (shukar) ko barbaad kardeggi.... .ghar main shukar
> > ki
> > > cheeze barbaad honne lag jaengi... mande budh ke nivaaran ka
> best
> > > upay i think is naak chhedan( nose prick),this remedy looks to
> be
> > > very simple but its actually very tough. because naak chhedan
> > > karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> > > main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person
> shud
> > > stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
> > minimum
> > > 96 hrs.......This is some thing i know for budh number 2 kuchh
> > > baatein tto mahajan ji ne pehle hi saaf kardi hain.....kuchh par
> > > hamaare senior members ki roshni ki bi zarurat
> > > hai......... ......... kiyunki we r just students in this field
> > > > and many things i have written may be wrong....... ........so
> > > corrections are solicited from our senior
> members..... .parbhakar
> > ji
> > > please throw some more light on this
> > > topic....... ......... ......... VIVIAN...
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 11/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
> > > > Subject: [astrostudents] BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > > > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Date: Monday, 11 August, 2008, 11:24 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Members
> > > > aap sab ko yeh jankar harani hog1 ki 1975-76 ke karib jab
> > lalkitab
> > > > market mein ayee(hindi photostat) tab jitne bhee log jo
> jyotish
> > ki
> > > > jankari rakhte theiy, unn logo ne budh khana no 2 walo ke ghar
> > se
> > > > niwar ke goley niklwa diye. tab aam gharo mein niwar hoti
> thee.
> > > abb
> > > > niwar nahi hai to yeh jyotish log kya karein.abb wool ke goley
> > > > niklwa rahe hain.budh khana no 2 wale ke liye achha yehi hai
> ki
> > > ghar
> > > > mein kisi bhee kisam ka suti (cotton) dhaga gole ki shakal
> mein
> > na
> > > > pada ho.
> > > > jaise khana no 1 ke liye daant 32 chahiye yahan bhee wohi
> halat
> > > hai
> > > > (vaise har khana mein budh ka achha phal tabi milega jab daant
> > 32
> > > ho)
> > > > Agar brahspati khana no 6ya7 mein ho to aisa jatak pita
> (father)
> > > ke
> > > > liye bhari hoga, matlab ki uske pita ki maut ya mritu tulya
> > kashat
> > > > jab budh khana no 2 wale ki umar 16 se 22 ki hogi. zyadatar
> aise
> > > > jatak ke pita ki maut 16 se 19 saal ke beech hi ho jati hai
> agar
> > > > bach jaye to bhee bimar ya murda ke brabar hi hoga.
> > > > Aise jatak ke ladkiya zyada hogi,lekin lawald nahi hoga matlab
> > ki
> > > > ladka avash hoga . ladke ke liye brahspati aur chander ki
> > sahayta
> > > > lee ja sakti hai.
> > > > Budh asal mein kya hai? brahspati+rahu= BUDH
> > > > abb aap rahu khana no 2 ka upay Chandi ki thos (solid)goli
> jatak
> > > > apne paas rakh sakte hain.
> > > > aur bhee bahut kuchh kiya ja sakta filhal itna hi kafi hai,
> agar
> > > aap
> > > > ke paas Budh khana no 2 ke baare mein kuchh alag hi jankari
> hai
> > ti
> > > > likhe.
> > > >
> > > > MAHAJAN
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From: mts3434 <mts3434@yahoo.
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
To: astrostudents@
Date: Wednesday, 13 August, 2008, 10:22 AM
Namaskar,
sorry, mein kuchh kadwa bol gaya tha.
Hua kuchh iss tarah ki jo mein kehna chahta thaa woh prabhakar sahib
ne keh diya hai, sirf kehne/samjhane ka tarika alag ho gaya. mein
kuchh kadwe tarike se keh gaya woh pyar se samjha gaye.aap kyonki
bahut aage ki soch rahe theiy, wahan tak ki mein to soch hi nahi
sakta.agar mein prabhakar ji ne jo kuchh likha thaa woh padh leta to
shayad mein apko itna kadwa nahi likhta. again & again SORRY.
abb itna dhayan rakhiye ki Budh khana no 2 wale ko budh ki ashiyan
sthapit nahi karni chahiye.
because naak chhedan
> karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person shud
> stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
minimum
> 96 hrs.....
Kripya yeh bataye ki 96 hours ka upay jaisa ki aapne likha hai yeh
kahan likha hai.kyonki zyadatar jab bhee Budh manda asar de raha ho
Nak Chhedan karwaya hi jata hai(96 days) lekin agar kahin yeh likha
hai ki 96 hours ghar mein hi rahe ya kisi ko nak chhedan dikhai na
de, sun light na lage aadi aadi.
Dhanyawad.
Mahajan
--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
<viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
>
> Mahajan ji, Namashkar !!!
> I am just a beginner in lal Kitab and a nursery class student in
front of u lekin fir bhi aap kripa kar Lal Kitab(1952) Ka Page
Number 543(budh2 nek haalat) zaroor padiyega its clearly mentioned---
------''Lambi va poshda aur baahar ko ubhri hui peshaani ka maalik
hogga.jismain jahanat tatha saath aayi hui kismat ka nek asar
hogga....... ......... ......... ......... '' Please sir do correct me
if i m wrong.....
> Â
> thanx------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ------
-------vivian
>
>
> --- On Tue, 12/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@... > wrote:
>
> From: mts3434 <mts3434@... >
> Subject: [astrostudents] Re: BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, 12 August, 2008, 12:48 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Vivian Ji,
> mein abhi itna vidhwan nahi hua ki matha(forehead) dekh kar bata
saku
> ki budh khana no 2 mein hai.Aapke baare mein mein kuchh keh nahi
> sakta.
> Mahajan
> --- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, vivian tandon
> <viviantandon@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Mahajan ji first of all i m highly thankful to u to start the
> topic again and kept this group alive......well about budh number
2
> wot i percieve is dat; aise insaan ka father ki age ki koi
guarantee
> ni hotti but tab tak jab tak chander se koi madad na mil rahi ho
if
> moon of such a person is in 8th or twelfth house father of such a
> person may survive.Moreover tewe ki darushti ke liye kuchh
questions
> we can ask like aise insaan ki mastishk(head) ubhraa hua
(protruding)
> hotta hai........and such a person is very intelligent but at the
> same time somewhat selfish also.
> > Budh ki cheeze sister,bua,daughter etc.r not gud for the
person
> and they give the result to that of a poison.....mande budh ki
pehli
> nishaani ghar main sheep, parrot kharidke ya vaise hi lekke
rakha
> jaye ya fir aise saksh ki saali ghar main aake rehne lag jaye tto
wo
> uskki wife ko (shukar) ko barbaad kardeggi.... .ghar main shukar
ki
> cheeze barbaad honne lag jaengi... mande budh ke nivaaran ka best
> upay i think is naak chhedan( nose prick),this remedy looks to be
> very simple but its actually very tough. because naak chhedan
> karvalenna hi upay nahi hai but naak chhedan karwaake ye b dhyan
> main rakha jaye ki it is not visible to anybody so the person shud
> stay indoor or closed door and away from everybody sight for
minimum
> 96 hrs.......This is some thing i know for budh number 2 kuchh
> baatein tto mahajan ji ne pehle hi saaf kardi hain.....kuchh par
> hamaare senior members ki roshni ki bi zarurat
> hai......... ......... kiyunki we r just students in this field
> > and many things i have written may be wrong....... ........so
> corrections are solicited from our senior members..... .parbhakar
ji
> please throw some more light on this
> topic....... ......... ......... VIVIAN...
> > ÂÂ
> > ÂÂ
> > ÂÂ
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/8/08, mts3434 <mts3434@ > wrote:
> >
> > From: mts3434 <mts3434@ >
> > Subject: [astrostudents] BUDH KHANA NUMBER 2
> > To: astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Monday, 11 August, 2008, 11:24 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Members
> > aap sab ko yeh jankar harani hog1 ki 1975-76 ke karib jab
lalkitab
> > market mein ayee(hindi photostat) tab jitne bhee log jo jyotish
ki
> > jankari rakhte theiy, unn logo ne budh khana no 2 walo ke ghar
se
> > niwar ke goley niklwa diye. tab aam gharo mein niwar hoti thee.
> abb
> > niwar nahi hai to yeh jyotish log kya karein.abb wool ke goley
> > niklwa rahe hain.budh khana no 2 wale ke liye achha yehi hai ki
> ghar
> > mein kisi bhee kisam ka suti (cotton) dhaga gole ki shakal mein
na
> > pada ho.
> > jaise khana no 1 ke liye daant 32 chahiye yahan bhee wohi halat
> hai
> > (vaise har khana mein budh ka achha phal tabi milega jab daant
32
> ho)
> > Agar brahspati khana no 6ya7 mein ho to aisa jatak pita (father)
> ke
> > liye bhari hoga, matlab ki uske pita ki maut ya mritu tulya
kashat
> > jab budh khana no 2 wale ki umar 16 se 22 ki hogi. zyadatar aise
> > jatak ke pita ki maut 16 se 19 saal ke beech hi ho jati hai agar
> > bach jaye to bhee bimar ya murda ke brabar hi hoga.
> > Aise jatak ke ladkiya zyada hogi,lekin lawald nahi hoga matlab
ki
> > ladka avash hoga . ladke ke liye brahspati aur chander ki
sahayta
> > lee ja sakti hai.
> > Budh asal mein kya hai? brahspati+rahu= BUDH
> > abb aap rahu khana no 2 ka upay Chandi ki thos (solid)goli jatak
> > apne paas rakh sakte hain.
> > aur bhee bahut kuchh kiya ja sakta filhal itna hi kafi hai, agar
> aap
> > ke paas Budh khana no 2 ke baare mein kuchh alag hi jankari hai
ti
> > likhe.
> >
> > MAHAJAN
> >
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