Astrostudents-Group Discussions: [astrostudents] Re: lalkitab aur uske upay kaha kab aur kase /Vivian Jee

Respected Vivian jee

Very very well put indeed. I am extremely happy to see such a
classical and old school approach towards the Lal kitab astrology from
one of our collegue, please accept my salutations.

You are absolutely right that It is utmost important to verify the
planetary configuration of the chart before proceeding further.
Actually you have indirectly touched the "the most important" method
known as Tewa Darustee. Mere placement of a planet or planets does not
qualify to be declared as Nek or Bad.Many a times placement of planets
in a chart can be confusing. Confusing in the sense that the results
may be entirely opposite to what the planetary configuration might be
suggesting. And at that very point it is the Tewa Darustee that can
clear the mist. That is what you have also called as proper diagnosis.

I am also fully agree with you that a remedy if suggested/performed
wrongly may backfire very badly. So one should always be extra careful
regarding remedial measures. For our student community the remedial
portion should be the final part of our study, I mean we should start
with the grammatical part of the Lal Kitab rather than jumping
straightaway to the Remedial portion.

Last but not the least, In you, I can visualize the emergence of
another bright star of the subject. This group require people of
classical thinking like you very badly, so keep sharing your thoughts
in this august forum.

Respectfully
Yograj Prabhakar

--- In astrostudents@yahoogroups.com, vivian tandon <viviantandon@...>
wrote:
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> --- On Fri, 18/7/08, narendra shrestha <narendra_ratlam@...> wrote:
> Â Narendra Ji,
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I think jo upay hotte hain they r the
medicines for various diseases of the ill effects of planets and
before moving to the medicines we shud first of all establish the root
cause of the disease as any good doctor does before prescribing any
medicine to his patient........And to establish this root cause of the
disease doctor has to apply various techniques to find it out;and
thereafter he gives u the right treatment as medicine,injection or
surgeryÂ or sometimes evenÂ justÂ an excercise which helps us to
recover from the disease at the earliest......
> Narendra ji remedial measures mentioned inÂ Lal Kitab are mere
Pharmacology,plaese pay more attention towards techniques of diagnoses
not towards medicines at the early stage of ur study.
> U will be surprised to know thatÂ same as it happens with some quack
doctors;sometimes due to wrong diagnoses and wrong treatment the
patients condition instead of improvement goes more critical; in the
same manner it happens in lal kitab also. But in Lal Kitab the Upay
not only effect the patient but his entire kingdom....
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â So in case any
medication(remedial measure or upay in lal kitab )goes wrong the
entire family is effected with the ill effects.
> It is utmost important to establish the planetary positions in the
horoscopeÂ before suggestingÂ any UPAY.
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Sometimes the positions
of planets require the Upay sometimes they dont require it;because the
planet in a particular house is not always malefic And Upay is always
for malefic effects of planets,its not required if the planets are
banefic in nature.
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Same planet in same
house may be malefic or banefic depending on the positions of its
enemy or freindly planets..... SO DEARÂ NARENDER JI FIRSTÂ PLEASE TRY
TO READ THE COMPLETE LAL KITAB THEN GO FOR REMEDIES..................
> Â ..................................SIR ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN A
DAY........................Keep reading and then ask for ur quaries if
u find any,there are many senior members in our group who will
definately help u....
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> From: narendra shrestha <narendra_ratlam@...>
> Subject: [astrostudents] lalkitab aur uske upay kaha kab aur kase
> To: astrostudents@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 18 July, 2008, 1:00 PM
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> sir,
> Lalkitab me vibhinaa upay graho ki position kee anusar alag-2
> prkar ke upay batye gaye he. en upayo ka kyo kab kaha aur kase prayog
> karna chhye. en se graha koonse khane me pauchata he
> (1)Pani me pravahit kar na.
> (2)Gamin me gadnaa.
> (3)Mandir me rakhna.
> (4)Garib ko dan karna.
> (5)Cow ko green chhara khilana.
> (6)Ring-Mala ka pryog.
> (7)Yantra ko dhran karna.
> (8)Chhat saf rakhna Etc.
> aapse anurodh he kee app Lalkitab ke upay ke bare me sampurna
> jaankari prdan kare.
> THNKS
> Your's
> Narendra Shrestha
> Ratlam MP
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