Hello frens,
It seems i have missed alot on the group but actually i have a small kid and sometimes it becomes difficult for me to meet both the ends. Anyway i just want to add my veiws for which our respected kondalji has already given his share.No doubt media had played a good role in adding to the fears of the brahmanical society.
Our society have always been dominated by the brahmanical interests.These type of rumuors only add fears to our minds.It is really painful that we being the part of the society are not able to do anthing.
So,now we must try to educate the people.Let them have more knowledge:that is the only way of improving them.
At the end i would like to add few words quoted by Gautum Buddha.............."Do not believe in hearsay,do not believe in what is handed down through generations;do not believe in anything because it is accepted by many;do not believe because some revered sage or elder makes a statement;do not believe in truths to which you have become attached by habit; do not believe merely on the authority of your traditional teachings. Have deliberation and analyse,and when the results accords with reason and conduces to the good of one and all,accept it and live up to it."
Regards,
Livia
It seems i have missed alot on the group but actually i have a small kid and sometimes it becomes difficult for me to meet both the ends. Anyway i just want to add my veiws for which our respected kondalji has already given his share.No doubt media had played a good role in adding to the fears of the brahmanical society.
Our society have always been dominated by the brahmanical interests.These type of rumuors only add fears to our minds.It is really painful that we being the part of the society are not able to do anthing.
So,now we must try to educate the people.Let them have more knowledge:that is the only way of improving them.
At the end i would like to add few words quoted by Gautum Buddha......
Regards,
Livia
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:59 AM, maneshwar singh kondal <mskondal@yahoo.com > wrote:
DATED: 14.8.2008
respected nirmal ji,
pranaam, it nice to hear from you.how r u hope fine and busy with your job.read your reply thanks for reading and reciprocating.its really the need of the hour to highlight such things otherwise people will be making fool of masses and our public is such that it can do anything in the name of religion.these are the words said by swami vivekanand ji.so only awareness with reasoning is required.
thanks once again
regards
MS KONDAL<span style="font-weight:bold;color: rgb(128, 0, 0);">M S KONDAL</span> ----- Original Message ----
From: Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar@gmail.com >
To: astrostudents@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:54:10 PM
Subject: [astrostudents] Re: Fw: 8-8-8 saturn is a friendmeaning and purpose to one's existence, then there is no questionsRespected Kondal Sahib,
Pranam,
It is now becoming a chronic problem of the society. Media is now
promoting these type of sensational theories. This practice is to
create sensational news and to increase channel TRP. This is a one
side of coin. Recently I saw a program discussing the genuineness of
Kala Sarpa Yoga. In which Mr. KN Rao has openly critcised the band of
astrologers who created hype of Kala Sarpa yoga to loot the innocent
people. With the increasing participation of intellectuals in
studying astrology,these black sheep will soon be put under control.
Regarding 8-8-8 , I checked the panchang and rather it was 8-8-8-8.
it is Ashtami, 8th tithi, 8th date, 8th month and 8th year of this
century. As usual, a hype is created to wait for some big disaster.
Nothing happens. These so called astrology Gurus fell flat. People
came to know their Tikdam Baazi.
Truth will burry lie in due course. Or we can say lie will die its
own death.
The point raised by Respected Shaitendra Ji,is the necessity of the
time. We in the group must try to dispell these myths.
We are grateful to you for sparing your precious time to explain the
prperties of planets, particularly Saturn. I know that your typing
speed is very slow and writing this much text is the job of hours.
Keep on enlightening us with your guidance
Best Regards
Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj
--- In astrostudents@ yahoogroups. com, maneshwar singh kondal
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> From: maneshwar singh kondal <mskondal@.. .>
> To: shatendra_s@ ...
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:43:03 PM
> Subject: 8-8-8 saturn is a friend
>
> dear members,
> charan pranaam to all my seniors and
hello to all of my colleagues,today i got mail from Mr shatendera k
sharma who is working at avery respectable post injawaharlal nehru
university at delhi and holding a strategic position and he has asked
all the members to raise a voice against all the so called babas and
astrologers who are appearing on the tv everyday and making people
paniky by telling their own originated or manifested stories
regarding the destruction of the world and other untoward incidents
across the world.these things do have an impact on general masses
because these are being telecasted by reputed tv channels without of
any responsibility that they are misguiding the masses.tv people are
attracting people more and more in numbers to watch their tv channel
by introducing various and different characters who are promoting
themselves rather than to educate people of the true facts.all of us
have seen that nothing
> bad had happened without the routine ones as such promoted by
astrologers and numerologists that this is going to happen or that is
going to happen,all of them say this could happen they dont say
firmly and confidently that this will happen.and now no one is seen
on the tv talking about it even the channels have stoped discussions
on it. and nobody from the public has also raised this question to
the media that what next they have to say.
>
> i dont say that astrology is not there ,i am also a true believer
of astrology ,being an engineer i am also doing some research works
on astrology its a proper science but it doesnt say that one should
play with the lives of public.rather its a science which makes you
aware of the happenings in advance and tells us to be prepared people
were recently saying lot of things bad about 8-8-8 combination and
saturns bad influence.
>
> but our scriptures say not a single planet is bad rather each and
every planet helps us to refine our energies in that particular field
represented by that particular planet.our bad fate is this that we
start looking only the negative part of the planet instead of looking
good out of it and trying to improvise our negative influences of
that planet by inscribing our positive energies to get rid of the
negativity.but this is not happening and we start cursing the
planets.this is really bad because it only increases the negativity
which ultimately engulfs us in its traps and finally we become the
victim of our own negativity and come out as a failure and we blame
the planet that because of this planet we r in trouble.
>
> this means we are inviting troubles ourselves and blaming it to
planets .take an example of saturn.
>
> Saturn is the planet of responsibility. Saturn imposes its burdens
on an individual so that he understands the importance of his own
needs. By meeting the responsibilities of Saturn, the individual
gives form to his own self worth. Even though Saturn has been thought
of as the planet of restrictions, it is actually a planet of great
freedom. When one avoids the tasks and responsibilities that givethat the weight of Saturn is felt heavily. All that an individualobstacles which are only stepping stones towards one's evolution, the
should confront but tries to ignore starts to gather weight in his
mind. When a more positive approach is taken in dealing with everydaymore one frees oneself from the weight of the past.> Saturn is the planet of Karma and makes an individual's life, in
>many ways, the result of his past actions. In order to flow with thebuild structure to one's life, here, now, today! Saturn is the planet
best energies of Saturn, an individual must be ready to truly
confront himself. What he is building in the here and now must be a
firm foundation beneath his feet.
>
> Saturn is the teacher, and holds within the greatest secrets of the
universe if one has the willingness to learn. What one does each day
is more important that what one dreams about doing in the future.
>
> The lesson of Saturn is not to look at what others do or even years
later what one could have done oneself, but rather to effectivelyof discipline. It instructs a person to stay within his own purpose,developing in the "Now" to give an individual the steady guidance he
regardless of how difficult it may at times appear to be.
>
> The ultimate that one can achieve through Saturn is the sense of
meaning that comes from knowing how purposeful everything one does
actually is. This planet which rules the conscience, is foreverneeds in order to know his own strength. Saturn can be onesbenefactor, or one's burden of woe depending completely upon the wayin which a person builds his structure. Saturn is the taskmaster. Hewho lives in "The Now" is always the master of the task!>> Saturn is a real teacher. Just keep going, even you feel it's hard.
>
> To fear Saturn is to fear knowing who we are, and what we are
capable of accomplishing; to learn to work with its energies is to
master the physical and material worlds, and ready ourselves for the
challenges of the spiritual and the unseen.
>The gifts will be worth it. I remember a teacher I had who was very
strict and rigorous. Everyone despised him but he knew that the
survivors would have the higher grades in the final exams which lead
us to the university. And so it happened.
>
>
> Saturn Returns occurs about every 30 years or so, and unlike
Jupiter Returns (which are usually fun) they are a very serious
matter.
>
> The first Saturn return occurs at around the age of 30, a
significant period in most lives. This is the first time you will
feel the reap-what-you- sow side of Saturn, as you take stock of what
you have achieved - or not - how your youthful dreams have been
fulfilled - or not. It can be a time of serious navel gazing, and
stock taking. Depending on the position and aspects of your natal
Saturn, you may change direction altogether, or choose to consolidate
on what you have already gained. Career, relationships and social
connections can all come under the microscope.
>
> The second Saturn Return occurs at about age 60, and once again the
focus is on taking a searching look at what life has dealt you, and
what you have dealt yourself. This can be a time of really sobering
reflection as you consider retirement and the years ahead. Can you
afford to retire? Have you sufficient other interests to look forward
to a life without work? Or are you considering another venture,
something that uses your accumulated skills and wisdom? What goes
around comes around, that is the real meaning of a Saturn Return.
>
> Saturn represents responsibility, self-discipline, obstacles and
limitations. Saturn's influence can be restrictive, cold and severe
and is usually noticeable in your life when you are faced with
obstacles. How you deal with obstacles and limitations is represented
by the characteristics of your Saturn sign. Saturn's position in your
chart determines how well you accept responsibility, as well as which
types of delays and opposition you can expect to encounter in life.
>
> The following planets are slow-moving, spending more than seven
years in each sign. These planets have a generational influence as
well as an individual influence. While the characteristics of your
Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto signs are still expressed to some degree
in your personality, their influence is not as strong as the above-
mentioned planets.
>
> Returns of the planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, do not have the
significance of returns of the inner planets because they move
extremely slowly. But as they move, they will aspect natal planets in
transit and at these times can point to periods of significant
changes in the life.
>
>
>
> there are not only negative things in the planets or
numbers .mother nature has provided lots and lots of solutions and
remedies by default which are hard to be understood by the human
brains but then also its our nature that we try for it .where as
human wants to control mother nature which is impossible and can
never be done.only thing is this that we have to change our drishti
instead of changing shrishti.means we have to change our vision
insted of changing mother nature.otherwise destruction is not far
because from our child hood we r listening vinashkaalae vipreet
budhi.so have faith in the almighty and let him do what he wants
because he knows what is best for us rather everyone.
>
>
> please think again and again and come out with firm answer that
these tv channels should stop harassing with the sentiments of public
or keep continuing?
>
> please keep on adding your comments to it so that every
intellectual should be aware of the ground facts.
>
> if i had written anything wrong ,hurted anybodys sentiments please
forgive me,i couldnt stop myself from writing because this was an
appeal from a person who is at a very respectable and honurable post
and has proved his responsibility by sending such an e mail.thanks
shatender ji and yograj ji too who called me up and asked to write
for it.
>
> thanks
>
> regards
>
> MS KONDAL
> <span style="font- weight:bold; color:rgb( 128, 0, 0);">M S KONDAL</
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